failing methods?

pidge I'm pretty sure that if you fail unit 2, then you won't be able to proceed to unit 3/4 but someone correct me if I'm wrong there. I, personally, would probably recommend switching to further since methods 3/4 will require you to be have a strong understanding and foundation in methods 1/2. I don't know too much about further 3/4 in terms of difficulty and overlap with methods however please review the study design and make sure you consult your teachers and seek their opinion just to be safe.

somebody8442

I accelerated in Methods and am completing further this year (weird, I know)

During VCE there is a minimum amount of units required to graduate, I can't remember exactly, but it'll be on the VCAA website. My guess it is was around 16? Eg. units 1+2 count as two towards the 16. Otherwise, an exception is required due to certain circumstances (medical or other reasons).

I know many people in my year level failed the methods 1 2 exam and were allowed to continue on to the 3 4, but i strongly discourage that, as it is just simply too difficult.

For further, they are changing the curriculum next year, so I am unsure about what will overlap. However, this year, the only overlap are in the modules. Matrices, trig and graphs and relations are all covered in methods to some degree, but all have other things you will have to learn within them.

Will This man is strong! He has not gotten anything less than 100 percent in further!

pidge
Nah just for methods... Unless for some reason u don't have enough units - as mentioned by @Will

pidge was wondering if failing my unit 2 for methods would affect anything?

As mentioned by others, if you get an N, you’ll need to make sure you have enough units to pass VCE.

Apart from that, I’d also add that you will need to consider whether Methods is a prereq for your future courses after Year 12, particularly if you’re interested in certain STEMM courses (last M is medicine) e.g. biomed and engineering, or commerce. Dropping Methods might mean closing doors or finding alternative routes that may cost more time and/or money. If you’re ok with that, it’s no worry, but if you aren’t, please be careful.

(this reply is so late, sorry!) Failing Unit 2 will not do anything, and you can still proceed to Unit 3/4 without any repercussions! (I did just that ) Most courses only require a study score of a 25+ in methods, with no requirements based on units. If you are 100% sure that the courses that you want to do does not require methods, then I would recommend swapping to further. Otherwise, keep at it!

Your performance in 1/2 does not determine how you will perform in 3/4. Yes, the concepts overlap but doing methods 3/4 allows you to consolidate and improve what might have dropped you a few marks in 1/2. But of course, it is your choice in the end and yes methods is a very stressful and time consuming subject overall.

I'm doing QCE, so don't take my experience too seriously, however, in Units 1 & 2, I was scraping passes for methods. In Units 3&4, I learned to play the QCE game, so I've been getting upwards of 60%, which is quite an improvement.

Don't stress to hard, if you don't think you wanna do methods, don't do it, but if you know you have to potential/wanna do it, keep it.

-jinx_58

Hi, I have a very important question that's been bugging me for ages. I'm taking methods this year (year 11) and although I'm passing, it's not necessarily the marks I could be getting if I was in Apps (WACE). With methods I have 5 subjects, ie. it doesn't have to be one of my highest, but I'm taking it just for the bonus points.
What should I do??
Should I drop methods next year and take up 3&4 Apps? Or should I carry through with methods until end of year 12 just for the bonus points, although I'm just passing and could be getting higher marks in apps?

Please help a distressed student out. I don't know what decision to make and you all seem to have experience with this stuff.

juliarobertsxxx
Methods can be very competitive especially near the mid-top range and some say it is a very difficult subject. Even though you get bonus marks it may not always help much and it will be better to do a subject which u enjoy and are far more likely to get a better mark in. A 27 in methods only scales to a 30 according to an ATAR calc. If you put some effort and do well in Apps, maybe you get a 35 raw. Don't worry too much about the bonus, it should be fun and enjoyable as well and you will be more inclined to do more work this way. Hope this helps.

Thank you so much for that. Here in WACE, only the top 4 subjects that you've taken go towards your ATAR; I'm not sure how it works in the other states. That's why I've taken Methods, because there are 4 other courses that can be considered before Methods, even though I'll get the bonus for it.

But thank you for your time and consideration : )

No worries . In VCE they take top 4 subjects as well to form base of atar along with 10% increments of bottom 2 subjects totaling to 6. I always wonder how different it is in other states too