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Hi,

I think that you should take time to immerse yourself in Japanese-- podcasts focussing on 'Slow Japanese' are abundant on Spotify and YouTube. Listening to JLPT N5/N4 Listening (there are plenty on YouTube) could also be helpful, especially because the length of individual questions are short and functions as a mini-quiz.

Shadowing can also be quite helpful after you've listened to the same audio clip many times. Repeat exactly what the speaker is saying almost at the same time.

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@Lemonade_222 hiii, I saw that you got an incredible score for Japanese Second Language back in 2022. Iโ€™m currently taking the 1/2 and will be moving onto the 3/4 next year, I have no Japanese background and picked up the language three years ago. I studied abroad in Japan for a summer holiday and managed to pick up on listening quite well but still am not amazing at VCE style oral. Iโ€™ve tried writing as much as I can but I find it super hard to determine whether how Iโ€™m writing is enough to achieve a really high score in year 12, as I feel my standards at the school are quite low and the assessor will award really high marks to those who write exceptionally. I really want to achieve a raw 40+ as itโ€™s probably going to save my ATAR . In terms of writing, do you think you could give me an idea of what the top achievers wrote like to gain such high marks? Also, do you have any other tips or suggestions especially since I am not a native speaker? Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

    20 days later

    sopiadavo
    Hiii sorry for the late response,
    For the oral component (yes it is a bit scary), as long as you have a broad understanding on how to respond to questions it would be pretty okay. I would suggest writing out the questions that you may be asked (for high marks, think of like every scenario possible) and write a response for it and memorise it (non native speakers find this strategy good) so you're confident with the answers that you would respond with. To do this, you can make physical cue cards, Anki flash cards etc and maybe get a friend that also does Japanese to help you simulate the oral component.
    In terms of writing, I know that for text types such as speeches and articles, high achieving students usually have a small introduction (brief short intro to introduce your topic) and have another 2-3 paragraphs (not too large as well) and a short conclusion at the end to summarise the topic. Also the grammar patterns in the study design would be extremely helpful so that the writing piece can flow nicely and remember to use the kanjis that are listed on the study design as well.
    I know a lot of non native speakers said that text types such as diaries and letters are their least favourite due to the plain form used, so maybe practice plain form just incase it comes up in the writing response. Do multiple writing tasks so you can find a particular structure/pattern on how to write nicely for each of the assigned text types so you can achieve good marks!!

    Note: About achieving a raw 40+ , I think the best score to achieve would be around 37-43 because those are the marks that give you the best scaling results ๐Ÿ™‚

    I hope that helps, Feel free to ask more questions if needed!

      17 days later

      Lemonade_222

      hi! just wondering what the oral is like cause mine is in less than 2 weeks. I had a practice oral and found it difficult to include the content I prepared because the assessors may not ask for it ๐Ÿ™

        doro
        Hi!
        It's been 2 years so I may have forgot the extremely small details of the oral but I'm sure I can help!
        Yea, it's a bit hard with orals because you really don't know what the assessors are going to ask you. But usually the main topics for general conversation (I'm sure you've gone over them in class) are like family, school, hobbies, why you're studying Japanese etc. From what I know of, the assessors really like going into detail with anything that you have mentioned in your response so try avoiding responses that you're not comfortable with and try to divert the conversation to a topic that you can comfortably talk about.
        With the discussion component, Im not sure if it's too late but may be worth to start if you haven't, to list out all the possible questions that the assessor could ask (literally every possible question) and have some response to it so you can be prepared when the assessor asks you these questions. Same with general conversation, if the assessors do ask you something that you have not prepared for, divert the topic to something you are confident with. Answer the assessor's question broadly and quickly divert it to the topic you are confident with to ensure that the assessors don't ask you too much about the content you're not confident in.

        Advice: Try and the lead the conversation/discussion to ensure that you can talk about the topics/content that you're confident in, allowing you to perhaps do well in your oral!!

        Note: The assessors take turns in asking questions so sometimes the topics may not link to one another :/

        Hope that helps!!!

        15 days later
        2 months later

        Hello,

        I'm starting Unit 3/4 Jap SL next year. I've written a sample essay. It would be really helpful if anyone could provide some feedback (what I did right / what I did wrong / how I can improve / how many marks I would get). Thx in advance :3

        Here is my essay:

        During the summer holidays, you had a meal with your family at a Japanese restaurant in Melbourne and took the photograph below (a Jap lunch set). Japanese food is known as healthy diet. Write an informative essay that describes Japanese food and explains the benefits of eating a healthy Japanese diet. Your Japanese teacher will read the essay.

        ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸ
        ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ใ€€ ใ€€ ใ€€ๅๅ‰
        ใ€€ๅคไผ‘ใฟใซๅฎถๆ—ใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ€Œๆ—ฅๆœฌใฎๆฃฎใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใƒกใƒซใƒœใƒซใƒณใซใ‚ใ‚‹ๆœ‰ๅใชๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใง้ฃŸไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ”้ฃฏใ‚„้ญšใ‚„้‡Ž่œใชใฉใ‚’้ฃŸในใฆใ€ใ™ใ”ใ็พŽๅ‘ณใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

        ใ€€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏๅฅๅบท็š„ใงไฝ“ใซใ„ใ„้ฃŸไบ‹ใจใ—ใฆ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใชใœใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚ๆ—ฅๆœฌใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ‹ไบบใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใจใ€ไธปใช็†็”ฑใฏๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใซใฏไฝ“ใซๆ‚ชใ„ๆๆ–™ใฎไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ€้‡Ž่œใ‚„้ญšใ‚„็ฑณใชใฉใฎใƒ˜ใƒซใ‚ทใƒผใงๆ–ฐ้ฎฎใชๆๆ–™ใŒไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€ใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใง้ฃŸในใŸๆ–™็†ใซใฏๆ „้คŠใฎ้ซ˜ใ„ๆๆ–™ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅซใพใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

        ใ€€ๆ›ดใซใ€ใƒชใ‚ตใƒผใƒใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใจใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏใจใ†ใซใ‚‡ใ†็—…ใ‚„ๅฟƒใžใ†็—…ใชใฉใฎ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’้˜ฒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใƒชใ‚ตใƒผใƒใฏใ€ŒๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใ‚‹ไบบใฎ๏ผ™๏ผ๏ผ…ใฎๆ–นใŒๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใชใ„ไบบใ‚ˆใ‚ŠๅฅๅบทใŒใ„ใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚็งใ‚‚ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใ‚Œใฐ้ฃŸในใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€ๅฅๅบทใŒใ‚ˆใใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚

        ใ€€ๅ…จไฝ“็š„ใซใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏใŠใ„ใ—ใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ไฝ“ใซใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚

          21 days later

          T33M0M41N

          Really good grammar variety and vocab, also good statistics and use of sources

          Just a few things, Iโ€™m no expert but these are just stuff which stood out to me

          ใ€Œ็พŽๅ‘ณใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ rather than saying this, the food being delicious is an opinion, not a thought, itโ€™s a judgment made after eating the food, so I think itโ€™d be better to just say ใ€Œ็พŽๅ‘ณใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€

          ใ€Œใจใ—ใฆ ใ€not exactly sure, but I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s the right usage of this here, but double check with someone else. Pretty sure itโ€™s only used for something which is expected or definitely true due to a role etc. e.g ใ€Œ็”Ÿๅพ’ใจใ—ใฆๅˆถๆœใ‚’็€ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€again, not sure

          ใ€Œไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใใ†ใงใ™, you asked your friends, but right now you are saying you โ€œheard it is usedโ€. Also, verb plain form๏ผ‹ใใ†ใงใ™ is a grammar point, so theใ“ใจใ  is unnecessary. Maybe ไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ is better

          ๆ›ดใซ, the kanji is unnecessary

          Instead of ใƒชใ‚ตใƒผใƒ, I think you should use the actual word ็ ”็ฉถ

          ใ€Œ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’้˜ฒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ€โ€”>ใ€Œ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’้˜ฒใ’ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ it was a bit to complicated and assessors would find it hard to read

          ใ€Œใ€ŒๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใ‚‹ไบบใฎ๏ผ™๏ผ๏ผ…ใฎๆ–นใŒๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใชใ„ไบบใ‚ˆใ‚ŠๅฅๅบทใŒใ„ใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ€โ€”> ใ€Œใ€ŒๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใ‚‹ไบบใฎ90๏ผ…ใฏใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใ‚’้ฃŸในใชใ„ไบบใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€

          Everything else is fine, would just make the conclusion longer, at least 2 sentences.

          Just remember structure and being concise is most important for assessors. Even if you donโ€™t use complex grammar in every sentence, as long as you include it 3-4 times you will receive higher marks. The last thing assessors want is a tough essay to read.

          But really good essay,

          I think it would get you a 7-8/10

            24 days later

            T33M0M41N
            So sorry for the late response,
            I have read your essay and would suggest a few things adding on to what the others had suggested:

            • Instead of the title being ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸ, preferably a better creative title should be put in place as VCE assessors would be getting sick of seeing the same title over and over again (by using an interesting title, it could give a good impression for the assesors)

            • ใ€Žๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏๅฅๅบท็š„ใงไฝ“ใซใ„ใ„้ฃŸไบ‹ใจใ—ใฆ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใชใœใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚ใ€This sentence is phrased a bit weirdly so I suggest rephrasing it to something like ใ€Œๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏๅฅๅบท็š„ใงไฝ“ใซใ„ใ„้ฃŸไบ‹ใจ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใชใœใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚ใ€

            • ใ€Žไธปใช็†็”ฑใฏๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใซใฏใ€is repetitive with 2 ใ€Œใฏใ€so rephrasing it to something like ใ€Œไธปใช็†็”ฑใจใ—ใฆใ€ๆ—ฅๆœฌ้ฃŸใฏไฝ“ใซๆ‚ชใ„ๆๆ–™ใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€would be better

            • ใ€Ž้‡Ž่œใ‚„้ญšใ‚„็ฑณใ€can be listed as ใ€Œ้‡Ž่œใ€้ญšใ‚„็ฑณใ€

            • ใ€Žไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€-> ใ€Œไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€

              Everything else is mentioned by sopiadavo ๐Ÿ™‚
              But yea pretty good essay, Great job!!

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